I couldn’t believe my ears. The digital equipment salesman asked me, “Who is it hurting anyway?” Why did the question send me into a tirade? The manufacturer’s salesman, Thomas, was asking my client to lie in order to qualify for the competitive equipment replacment discount.
I uncovered the lie while reviewing the copier lease for a commercial printing company client.
The company owner, Fred, was adding an additional black and white high speed digital copier. Although Fred had considered a reconditioned copier, he decided on the new one from his long-time primary equipment supplier.
We were hired to help negotiate the lease terms and look for gotchas in the contract.
In reading the lease, I saw Fred was trading in a competitive brand copier. In exchange he’d receive a “big trade-in discount.”
“Gee Fred,” I said, “I didn’t know you had any of that other manufacturer’s stuff.” “I don’t,” Fred said. “It must be sloppy salesman paperwork.”
No it was not a mistake. It is what Thomas, the salesman said he had to do to play the discount game. He said “everybody does it.” I naively asked what happens when the truck shows up to remove the equipment and it does not exist. “Oh everyone knows about this. No truck will show up.” Does your boss know? Again I heard the “everyone knows.”
Thomas asked why it bugged me so much. “Who’s it hurting?” Nobody he could think of. He saw the lie as a win-win situation.
I have seen this trade-in scam before. Why couldn’t they call it the Tuesday discount? The “this is your lucky day discount?”
Are all copier dealers doing it? All manufacturers? When I see sales statistics and read how many competitive pieces of equipment were replaced by another company’s superior copiers, do I believe the numbers? No way.
I wonder if the Enron accountants said “Who’s it hurting?” when they started to cook the books? What happened to ethics and integrity?
While i do offer generous discounts for upgrading competitive equipment, we at konicaminolta enforce these rules strictly and there is no chance of us ever being able to pull something like what you have outlined off. It sounds to me that the sales rep was from a dealer rather then the manufacturer. Often, dealer principles are shadier then their reps, and in fact encourage this type of behavior.
This is what gives our business a bad name, and just one more reason why consumers should deal with the manufacturer’s directly.
First time in 41 years, was denied credit. poor credit. Are there any company that will forgo a personal guanrantee and use my past records, payments are always on time. Just a small 219.oo per month for 36 months.
Sam, I still find folks getting approved on used equipment. Usually the approval comes with a downpayment as much as 20%.
And most of the time it is also with a personal guarantee. These times are not “business as usual,” no matter how strong your financials are.
Please keep reading and responding. Thank you.